i remember when i thought the 185 berg was the cats meow. wont be caught dead w/ them after shooting some 210s. best shot to date was a 1 shot kill on a jackrabbit at 510 yards. I wouldnt believe it myself if i hadnt seen it. i broke a spike bulls spine at 600. i drew a good early rifle elk tag in ~2010, i spent all summer dialing in out to 800 yards. ended up whacking my next two bulls at < 70 yards. the bergers made an absolute mess inside the rib case of both. they are good near and far. i know someone that hit a muley at 580 in the hind quarters, the shrapnel was plenty lethal and the buck bled out quickly.